Comments on: Harishchandrachi Factory: India’s latest Oscar blunder? http://blogs.widescreenjournal.org/?p=1738 Wide Screen Journal Editors' Blog Tue, 07 Sep 2010 18:30:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: RAHUL http://blogs.widescreenjournal.org/?p=1738&cpage=1#comment-1824 RAHUL Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:36:12 +0000 http://blogs.widescreenjournal.org/?p=1738#comment-1824 hello friends,in my opinion HF is a superb movie that every indian must watch.Academy award is in no way a measure to fathom the greatness of a movie because there are lot of flaws in their judgement.I think that kuhu is mostly wrong and only partially right reviewing this movie.the film is better than tonnes of oscar movies.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1824','RAHUL'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1824','RAHUL','hello friends,in my opinion HF is a superb movie that every indian must watch.Academy award is in no way a measure to fathom the greatness of a movie because there are lot of flaws in their judgement.I think that kuhu is mostly wrong and only partially right reviewing this movie.the film is better than tonnes of oscar movies.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> hello friends,in my opinion HF is a superb movie that every indian must watch.Academy award is in no way a measure to fathom the greatness of a movie because there are lot of flaws in their judgement.I think that kuhu is mostly wrong and only partially right reviewing this movie.the film is better than tonnes of oscar movies.
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]]> By: Shu http://blogs.widescreenjournal.org/?p=1738&cpage=1#comment-1767 Shu Mon, 07 Jun 2010 22:20:37 +0000 http://blogs.widescreenjournal.org/?p=1738#comment-1767 What's the point of whipping the movie so badly? Why expect indepth analysis, political themes and whatnot from a movie, strong points of which lie totally elsewhere? Oscar material or not, it's a sweet movie and while I thought the story tasted a bit bland, I l-o-v-e-d the way it's made/shot/edited. My first Marathi movie ( i think) and I totally enjoyed it. Why did it annoy you so much? You take it almost personally, it seems. Like you're afraid that Oscar selection committee will get a wrong idea of Indian cinema or something. Relax. Cheers from Moscow.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1767','Shu'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1767','Shu','What\'s the point of whipping the movie so badly? Why expect indepth analysis, political themes and whatnot from a movie, strong points of which lie totally elsewhere? Oscar material or not, it\'s a sweet movie and while I thought the story tasted a bit bland, I l-o-v-e-d the way it\'s made\/shot\/edited. My first Marathi movie ( i think) and I totally enjoyed it. \n\nWhy did it annoy you so much? You take it almost personally, it seems. Like you\'re afraid that Oscar selection committee will get a wrong idea of Indian cinema or something.\n\nRelax.\nCheers from Moscow.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> What’s the point of whipping the movie so badly? Why expect indepth analysis, political themes and whatnot from a movie, strong points of which lie totally elsewhere? Oscar material or not, it’s a sweet movie and while I thought the story tasted a bit bland, I l-o-v-e-d the way it’s made/shot/edited. My first Marathi movie ( i think) and I totally enjoyed it.

Why did it annoy you so much? You take it almost personally, it seems. Like you’re afraid that Oscar selection committee will get a wrong idea of Indian cinema or something.

Relax.
Cheers from Moscow.

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]]> By: Suraj Kumar http://blogs.widescreenjournal.org/?p=1738&cpage=1#comment-1701 Suraj Kumar Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:36:04 +0000 http://blogs.widescreenjournal.org/?p=1738#comment-1701 I don no about others opinion, but i found this movie absolutely hilarious , that movie rocks, i never feel bored, no negative feeling just plain simple and short explanation of how first indian movie was made.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1701','Suraj Kumar'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1701','Suraj Kumar','I don no about others opinion, but i found this movie absolutely hilarious , that movie rocks, i never feel bored, no negative feeling just plain simple and short explanation of how first indian movie was made.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I don no about others opinion, but i found this movie absolutely hilarious , that movie rocks, i never feel bored, no negative feeling just plain simple and short explanation of how first indian movie was made.
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]]> By: vinayak http://blogs.widescreenjournal.org/?p=1738&cpage=1#comment-1667 vinayak Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:48:23 +0000 http://blogs.widescreenjournal.org/?p=1738#comment-1667 There are two different things here. First one is about whether this is good movie. I watch movie as a whole experience instead of just judging one aspect of film making. Paresh Mokashi made concious effort of making this film into light hearted movie and he conveys point very well without making too much fuss about it. Second point about Oscar; it is similar award to Filmfare award. It is driven by popularity of a movie in US context. It is not international award per say. I dont know why India send movies for Oscar at all. I watch many movies in foreign languages such as French, Italian, chinese and Spanish. Some of them are great movies; but they have western context which is easy for Jury to understand than movies made with eastern context. As far as quality of set etc is concerned, then a movie made with 1% budget is still very well made.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1667','vinayak'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1667','vinayak','There are two different things here. \r\n\r\nFirst one is about whether this is good movie. I watch movie as a whole experience instead of just judging one aspect of film making. Paresh Mokashi made concious effort of making this film into light hearted movie and he conveys point very well without making too much fuss about it. \r\n\r\nSecond point about Oscar; it is similar award to Filmfare award. It is driven by popularity of a movie in US context. It is not international award per say. I dont know why India send movies for Oscar at all. \r\n\r\nI watch many movies in foreign languages such as French, Italian, chinese and Spanish. Some of them are great movies; but they have western context which is easy for Jury to understand than movies made with eastern context. \r\n\r\nAs far as quality of set etc is concerned, then a movie made with 1% budget is still very well made.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> There are two different things here.

First one is about whether this is good movie. I watch movie as a whole experience instead of just judging one aspect of film making. Paresh Mokashi made concious effort of making this film into light hearted movie and he conveys point very well without making too much fuss about it.

Second point about Oscar; it is similar award to Filmfare award. It is driven by popularity of a movie in US context. It is not international award per say. I dont know why India send movies for Oscar at all.

I watch many movies in foreign languages such as French, Italian, chinese and Spanish. Some of them are great movies; but they have western context which is easy for Jury to understand than movies made with eastern context.

As far as quality of set etc is concerned, then a movie made with 1% budget is still very well made.

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]]> By: Neela Paranjpe http://blogs.widescreenjournal.org/?p=1738&cpage=1#comment-1650 Neela Paranjpe Sat, 17 Apr 2010 10:30:09 +0000 http://blogs.widescreenjournal.org/?p=1738#comment-1650 I just watched the film and it is superbly done. The scope of the film was not freedom fight and fighters, it was how Dadasaheb Phalke went after his dream and succeeded to fulfill it. But some of Indians want to emphasize only racial tension, bad treatment by British people, like sugar cane is passed through the crusher while juicing it. They enjoy when the poverty in India is shown, the humiliation of Indians by British is shown, they just do not want to come out of that rut and feel disappointed when it is not shown in the movies. This movie is very well done, the continuity is maintained very well, the tempo is well balanced. Not a single scene is felt as if its a stretch of imagination. Bottom line is you identify with the movie. So I will say, go and see the movie and it wasn't a bad choice of movie to Oscar. Very well done.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1650','Neela Paranjpe'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1650','Neela Paranjpe','I just watched the film and it is superbly done. The scope of the film was not freedom fight and fighters, it was how Dadasaheb Phalke went after his dream and succeeded to fulfill it. But some of Indians want to emphasize only racial tension, bad treatment by British people, like sugar cane is passed through the crusher while juicing it. They enjoy when the poverty in India is shown, the humiliation of Indians by British is shown, they just do not want to come out of that rut and feel disappointed when it is not shown in the movies. \r\n\r\nThis movie is very well done, the continuity is maintained very well, the tempo is well balanced. Not a single scene is felt as if its a stretch of imagination. Bottom line is you identify with the movie. So I will say, go and see the movie and it wasn\'t a bad choice of movie to Oscar. Very well done.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I just watched the film and it is superbly done. The scope of the film was not freedom fight and fighters, it was how Dadasaheb Phalke went after his dream and succeeded to fulfill it. But some of Indians want to emphasize only racial tension, bad treatment by British people, like sugar cane is passed through the crusher while juicing it. They enjoy when the poverty in India is shown, the humiliation of Indians by British is shown, they just do not want to come out of that rut and feel disappointed when it is not shown in the movies.

This movie is very well done, the continuity is maintained very well, the tempo is well balanced. Not a single scene is felt as if its a stretch of imagination. Bottom line is you identify with the movie. So I will say, go and see the movie and it wasn’t a bad choice of movie to Oscar. Very well done.

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]]> By: Biju Namboothiri http://blogs.widescreenjournal.org/?p=1738&cpage=1#comment-1503 Biju Namboothiri Tue, 02 Mar 2010 08:10:14 +0000 http://blogs.widescreenjournal.org/?p=1738#comment-1503 Dear Kuhu, Your take on the movie is absolutely lopsided, to say the least. I dont know whether you understand the nuances of comical timing , or whether you understand the language in which it was made, or the entire purpose of making this movie. If the director wanted it to be another piece of 'boring' history that the masses detest, he could have done it easily, judging from the movie that he has made. But it was not his intention. He had a story to tell, and he said it in his own unique style. Secondly, Oscar is NOT a barometer of where we stand vis a vis world cinema. Sending an entry to the Oscars is good, but criticising our work because 'they' could not see our point , is very stupid, especially when the overall quality of the movie was quite extraordinary. Cinema is about entertainment and entertainment only. I know a lot of pseudo intellectuals who like to disect movies into irrelevant parts. You either like a movie or you dont. It doesnt matter if some jury thinks otherwise. Personally I would like to see more of such movies being made.Oscar or no oscar, people need entertainment.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1503','Biju Namboothiri'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1503','Biju Namboothiri','Dear Kuhu,\r\nYour take on the movie is absolutely lopsided, to say the least. I dont know whether you understand the nuances of comical timing , or whether you understand the language in which it was made, or the entire purpose of making this movie. If the director wanted it to be another piece of \'boring\' history that the masses detest, he could have done it easily, judging from the movie that he has made. But it was not his intention. He had a story to tell, and he said it in his own unique style.\r\nSecondly, Oscar is NOT a barometer of where we stand vis a vis world cinema. Sending an entry to the Oscars is good, but criticising our work because \'they\' could not see our point , is very stupid, especially when the overall quality of the movie was quite extraordinary.\r\nCinema is about entertainment and entertainment only. I know a lot of pseudo intellectuals who like to disect movies into irrelevant parts. You either like a movie or you dont. It doesnt matter if some jury thinks otherwise. Personally I would like to see more of such movies being made.Oscar or no oscar, people need entertainment.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Dear Kuhu,
Your take on the movie is absolutely lopsided, to say the least. I dont know whether you understand the nuances of comical timing , or whether you understand the language in which it was made, or the entire purpose of making this movie. If the director wanted it to be another piece of ‘boring’ history that the masses detest, he could have done it easily, judging from the movie that he has made. But it was not his intention. He had a story to tell, and he said it in his own unique style.
Secondly, Oscar is NOT a barometer of where we stand vis a vis world cinema. Sending an entry to the Oscars is good, but criticising our work because ‘they’ could not see our point , is very stupid, especially when the overall quality of the movie was quite extraordinary.
Cinema is about entertainment and entertainment only. I know a lot of pseudo intellectuals who like to disect movies into irrelevant parts. You either like a movie or you dont. It doesnt matter if some jury thinks otherwise. Personally I would like to see more of such movies being made.Oscar or no oscar, people need entertainment.
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]]> By: Kalpesh Mahulkar http://blogs.widescreenjournal.org/?p=1738&cpage=1#comment-1433 Kalpesh Mahulkar Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:14:21 +0000 http://blogs.widescreenjournal.org/?p=1738#comment-1433 *Send "Harishchandrachi Factory" to OSCAR its deserves...*<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1433','Kalpesh Mahulkar'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1433','Kalpesh Mahulkar','*Send \"Harishchandrachi Factory\" to OSCAR its deserves...*'); return false;">Quote</a></div> *Send “Harishchandrachi Factory” to OSCAR its deserves…*
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]]> By: Kuhu Tanvir http://blogs.widescreenjournal.org/?p=1738&cpage=1#comment-1414 Kuhu Tanvir Mon, 15 Feb 2010 05:42:05 +0000 http://blogs.widescreenjournal.org/?p=1738#comment-1414 @rupesh: what connection do my comments have with the release of the film? i said it is not oscar-worthy and as far as that is concerned, the result is there for all to see. @anoushka: i think it is time we open our eyes to the circumstances under which phalke was declared (by himself, mind you) the father of indian cinema. all early filmmakers have a major contribution to the development of cinema in the country, but now that it has been proven that others had done all this work before him, maybe we need to at least acknowledge them. Ravi's article on the work done by stephen hughes on early indian filmmakers is worth a read: http://blogs.widescreenjournal.org/?p=1816<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1414','Kuhu Tanvir'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1414','Kuhu Tanvir','@rupesh: what connection do my comments have with the release of the film? i said it is not oscar-worthy and as far as that is concerned, the result is there for all to see. \r\n@anoushka: i think it is time we open our eyes to the circumstances under which phalke was declared (by himself, mind you) the father of indian cinema. all early filmmakers have a major contribution to the development of cinema in the country, but now that it has been proven that others had done all this work before him, maybe we need to at least acknowledge them. Ravi\'s article on the work done by stephen hughes on early indian filmmakers is worth a read: http:\/\/blogs.widescreenjournal.org\/?p=1816'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @rupesh: what connection do my comments have with the release of the film? i said it is not oscar-worthy and as far as that is concerned, the result is there for all to see.
@anoushka: i think it is time we open our eyes to the circumstances under which phalke was declared (by himself, mind you) the father of indian cinema. all early filmmakers have a major contribution to the development of cinema in the country, but now that it has been proven that others had done all this work before him, maybe we need to at least acknowledge them. Ravi’s article on the work done by stephen hughes on early indian filmmakers is worth a read: http://blogs.widescreenjournal.org/?p=1816
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]]> By: Anoushka http://blogs.widescreenjournal.org/?p=1738&cpage=1#comment-1406 Anoushka Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:46:20 +0000 http://blogs.widescreenjournal.org/?p=1738#comment-1406 I do not agree to the negative points mentioned. They are worth. The spectrum of the film is short but most important not only for Mr. Phalke but the entire $ 11.68 billion worth Indian film industry.
It shows a time when a man followed his dream. Brought cinema to India. Made first Indian motion film, best put the first Indian super hit film. Not to forget the supported of extra ordinary people like his wife, kids, friends…

The film is a tribute to this visionary. Whatever is made is worth praise. In fact it’s a shame that it takes 96 yrs to make a film on the person who has rightfully done real service to ‘ART OF FILMAKING’

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]]> By: Rupesh Gujarathi http://blogs.widescreenjournal.org/?p=1738&cpage=1#comment-1403 Rupesh Gujarathi Sun, 14 Feb 2010 05:59:24 +0000 http://blogs.widescreenjournal.org/?p=1738#comment-1403 Now since the movie is released, would u like to withdraw ur article. It is certainly a good movie. R u just discremenating because this is a marathi movie? What is there to see in MNIK, nothing new, basic theme is same as newyork. Anyways good use of english at least. But for sure ur facts are mostly incorrect.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1403','Rupesh Gujarathi'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1403','Rupesh Gujarathi','Now since the movie is released, would u like to withdraw ur article. It is certainly a good movie. R u just discremenating because this is a marathi movie? What is there to see in MNIK, nothing new, basic theme is same as newyork. Anyways good use of english at least. But for sure ur facts are mostly incorrect.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Now since the movie is released, would u like to withdraw ur article. It is certainly a good movie. R u just discremenating because this is a marathi movie? What is there to see in MNIK, nothing new, basic theme is same as newyork. Anyways good use of english at least. But for sure ur facts are mostly incorrect.
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